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IF61 some problems

morgue — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:31:16 GMT

hi!

i just got an IF61 device.

I need to prepare simple app that stores tag reads when offline using USB device.

i wanted to use Ale Store and Forward apllication but cannot srart ALE server and get messages like these:

Jan 1 02:17:55 IF6107011025623 user.notice root: ALE: Starting ALE...
Jan 1 02:17:56 IF6107011025623 user.notice root: alepid=
Jan 1 02:17:56 IF6107011025623 user.notice root: ALE Server has not started!
Jan 1 02:17:56 IF6107011025623 user.notice root: Failed to start the ALE Server! Store And Forward cannot run.

Additionally an USB device isn't mounted automatically into /home/developer/usb1. I tried to mount it manually but unfortunately got no root account. Can i have a root access to use commands like mount?

thanx in advance

Re: Turn off the phone using an XML SmartSystems in CN50

DarrenBeckley — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:54:42 GMT

Not directly, but you could download WWANRadioPower.exe as well then run it using a SmartSystems XML script. See this post for WWANRadioPower.exe:

http://community.intermec.com/t5/Device-Management/Will-WWANRadioPower-exe-work-ok-on-CN50/m-p/2600

You could run it using a script like this placed into \SmartSystems\SSConfigDir, assuming you have already placed WWANRadioPower.exe in \Temp folder:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<DevInfo Action="Set">
  <Subsystem Name="SS_Client">
    <Group Name="FileSystem">
      <Group Name="StartProcess">
        <Field Name="File">\Temp\WWANRadioPower.exe</Field>
        <Field Name="Parameters">off</Field>
      </Group>
    </Group>
  </Subsystem>
</DevInfo>

Turn off the phone using an XML SmartSystems in CN50

ccapilla — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:19:23 GMT

Is this possible?

Re: Upgrading from old equipment to new

hjgode — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:08:21 GMT

Hello TMSuser

as far as I understodd your first post, the device communicates with a service on a server. Due to the device capabilities, I assume the device uses sockets to communicate with the server. Additionally I assume the big parts of the program are just sending informatiions to the server and the server gives feedback about the data to the device. The core of your device aprogram seems to be about socket send/receive, but without seeing the code...

The ck3 and other windows mobile devices cannot communicate dirctly with a MSAccess database. There is the SQLCE sdk which enables mobile devices to use local or remote databases or synced data, where only parts of the server SQL data is hold locally on the device and synced with the server data.

Are you more a C or VB or C# developer? You can start with an automatically converted Antares like C code using the Antares Migration toolkit or start from scratch and implement the socket communication and the GUI etc using DotNet (C# or VB). I would not touch the server service nor the logic in the first step, it seems to be a well working solution.

If you have Visual Studio, you can just use C/C++, C# or VB.NET to start a new SmartDevice project.

You can also use Visual Studio to work with the migrated Antares code.

The socket communication used on the antares uses an already defined wireless communication. When you siwtch to 802.11 wireless, the connection parameters can be controlled with the help of the Communication resource kit (in C, C#, VB) or the Device Management resource kit (SmartSystems integration). In a first step I would setup the 802.11 connection manually. If the WLAN parameters dont change, you should use a SmartSystems xml configuration to setup the parameters during boot only. This must not be part of the core application.

If you provide some code and where you would like to go, we may help you more.

regards

Josef

Re: Upgrading from old equipment to new

TMSuser — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:42:22 GMT

If I use a remote database on the server, do I still need the communications application that runs as a service on the server OR can I directly read/update the remote database from the application that runs on the device?

Re: Upgrading from old equipment to new

RoyL — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:02:38 GMT

I assume you would want to keep your current infrastructure and approach (except for probably updating access points etc.) If that is the case, you could either just rebuild your application with the Antares Migration kit, or rewrite your application.

If you rebuild with Antares Migration, the functionality, messeging and to some extent the look and feel would be similar to the Antares.

If instead you rewrite the application, then the choice is yours.

You could still use a remote server for the database, and there are some good reasons to do that.

On the other hand there are ways to keep some data in a local to the device data base, and Microsoft has some good examples of how to get the data to fairly automatically synch up. This would be useful in a case where you have intermittent connections.

As far as other language options, the IDL supports unmanaged C++ and JAVA as well as any .NET choice, which includes C# & VB.NET as well as some others.

Re: Upgrading from old equipment to new

TMSuser — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:40:22 GMT

What other languages are an option if any?

I'm not entirely clear on this ... The actual reads/updates to the database (be it MSACCESS or SQL Server) are accomplished/coded in the program that runs on the device OR are they accomplished/coded in a communications application that runs on the server, such as the service currently being used that the device will communicate with?

Re: CK3 scanner stopped working

KevinSwanner — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:27:41 GMT

Thanks for the tips, Josef.

My application uses a "global" BarCodeScanner object, which is initialized at startup. I have (currently) only one screen that uses the scanner. As a general rule, when I go into a screen that needs the scanner, I turn it on in the Activated() method and turn it off in the Deactivate() method. This has been working for a long time in both this and other applications.

I also have a "Check for Upgrades" routine that goes to our website and automatically upgrades the application. Part of this upgrade process includes shutting down the application and running a tool that installs the downloaded cab file.

I currently have two versions of the application: 1.00, and 1.01. The customer is getting this issue while using v1.00--we thought it was only in v1.01. Here is the process I'm going through to get the problem:

1. Install v1.00.

2. Run the app and go through the setup process (no scanner involved).

3. Go into the screen that requires the scanner (the scanner gets turned on when the form is loaded) and do some scans--one or many doesn't matter. The scanner works.

4. Get out of the screen (the scanner gets turned off).

5. Go into the Check for Upgrades area. An upgrade is found and downloaded.

6. The application shuts down and the cab file is installed. The custom tool, RunCab.exe, is run. This tool makes sure the application is terminated before trying to run the cab file. It works just fine.

7. Run the app and go through step 3. The scanner is not working.

Apparently, the "Hardware Trigger" is turned off. I'm assuming that when I turn off the scanner (BarCodeScanner.Enabled=false), the Hardware Trigger is turned off (and the opposite when I enable the scanner).

I'm using Data Collection RK v3.50 in version 1.00. There was an issue with another application using this version of the RK, so I downgraded to v3.40. Version 1.01 of my app uses DCRK v3.40. When I copied the 3.50 versions of Intermec.DataCollection.CF2.dll and ITCImager.dll onto the application directory of the device, it worked. Replacing them again with the 3.40 versions disabled the scanner.

For other reasons, I can't upgrade the DCRK to v3.50. So, is there an issue with v3.40?

Thanks,

Kevin - ACI

Re: Upgrading from old equipment to new

RoyL — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:57:22 GMT

The Intermec tools for developing on the CK3 are at www.intermec.com/idl. There is a kit (Antares Migration) that should allow you to just recompile Antares applications and use them on a CK3, however in the long run you are much better off recreating the application.

I would recommend C#, using Microsofts Visual Studio 2008.

The Data Collection Resource kit will have functions for controlling the scanner/imager, and most of the other functions you might have used for Antares will come from Microsoft. They make it easy to manage the screen in much nicer ways than the old character based devices.

If you rewrite all of the communications functions you might have used on the Antares will need to be replaced using Microsofts Winsock for network communications. The serial communications are harder to rewrite, and moving up to using the network is generally better.

The device management resource kit can be helpful in replacing the imCommand function, and the device resource kit has some functions for making tones etc. Beyond that most of the resource kits are for features that would not have been available on Antares any way, so may not be of as much interest.

Upgrading from old equipment to new

TMSuser — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:30:28 GMT

Have old Intermec 2425 devices running in old open air (504) wireless. Devices currently communicate with a communications service running on a server, which validates part number against an MSACCESS database then stores transactions in same database. Want to upgrade to CK3 devices.

Not sure where to start. What application pieces are needed in order to use the new CK3 devices and still retrieve/store information in MSACCESS database on server?

What programming language would each application piece be written in? What SDKs are tool kits are needed? Is there any sample code available for each application piece?

Thanks for any information to help me navigate through this process.

Re: Help

hjgode — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:56:53 GMT

Hello

unfortunately there is no CK30 emulator. In the past, IBM provided Websphere Studio Device Developer (latest version was 5.7.2). This included ARMv4 and X86 executables of the J9 JVM. So one could run and debug J9 applications on the PC only. But this does not include special hardware support like a barcode scanner. The intermec barcode scanners can be used via datacollection.jar, which uses JNI and a DLL to access the barcode scanner.

You can just develop using eclipse but use JRE 1.4 compatibilty. There is an eclipse J9 plugin (see here). You can develop and test in ecipse and then run on Windows CE as long as you only use the classes available by J9 (or the JVM you choose, ie CrEme or ...).

There are a lots of resources in internet for 'eclipse "Windows ce"' just use your web search provider.

some links:

http://www.vikdavid.com/mobile/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Platform,_Micro_Edition

http://www.nsicom.com/Default.aspx?tabid=138

http://jmj-eclipse.blogspot.com/2009/10/running-ercp-with-phoneme-advanced-on.html

~josef

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vikdavid.com%2Fmobile%2F&rct=j&q=eclipse%20j2me%20cdc%20%22windows%20ce%22&ei=MniGTPrXLYSVOLvUrMkO&usg=AFQjCNEzLG7oAMO9YlPXJhWHEN-zsSJIiA&sig2=Vka0qOshNJZYFb7fEmo-9w&cad=rja

Re: CK3 scanner stopped working

hjgode — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:12:50 GMT

Hello Kevin

I have not heard about such a strange behaviour. The issue can have different general route causes.

a DLL has been replaced or different DLLs with same name spread on device (the DLL hell)

the scanner is just disabled (Intermec Settings)
the SSPB has been corrupted (DCEinit working on boot?)

the device registry has been corrupted
one or more files are corrupted
the bootup procedure has been changed/corrupted
files have been deleted
memory low condition prevents load of DLLs or processes
more simple: all symbologies or just the symbology you try to read are/is disabled

...

does the scanner still light when you press the scan button?
is the scan trigger enabled (IntermecSettings-Device)?
what does IntermecSettings show about the internal scanner?
are you able to scan into notes (Keyboard wedge working)?

The scanner is a hardware module that communicates more or less via a serial connection with the mainboard. The barcode scanner driver is controlled by DCEinit (see process list) and the registry. The registry contains binary data that is used to configure the scanner.

It is not easy to give a complete trouble shooting sheet without more details. Normally a system will not change it behaviour if nothing has been changed. So sit back and think about possible changes.

regards

Josef

Re: CN50 associated bluetooth printer using XML file SmartSystem

hjgode — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:56:01 GMT

I am sorry, but Bluetooth printers cannot be associated with the core SmartSystems agent. Although SmartSystems enables you to get informations about a associated BT printer thru IntermecSettings, you cannot bond a BT printer using this.

The intermec bluetooth resource kit (BTRK) provides an utility called PSWDM0C.exe to bond bluetooth printers. This tool also uses xml. See the BTRK documentation Bluetooth_Resource_Kit.chm in the docs directory.

regards

Josef

CK3 scanner stopped working

KevinSwanner — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:01:22 GMT

We've had a strange problem all of a sudden with several CK3 computers: the barcode scanner would simply stop working. Only a clean-boot gets it working again.

My boss handed me a device that was working. I put an updated version of the application on the device and ran it. The scanner did not work. NOTE: there were no changes to the application regarding the DataCollection resource kit. I tried warm-booting and cold-booting, but this did not fix it. Only a clean-boot fixed it.

Also, the customer has several CK3 scanners and this has just started happening. There were no software updates.

Does anyone have any ideas about what could be causing this?

Thanks,

Kevin - ACI

CN50 associated bluetooth printer using XML file SmartSystem

ccapilla — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:28:47 GMT

Anyone have any example... like this, but to associate with a bluetooth printer.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<DevInfo Action="Set" Persist="true">
<Subsystem Name="Data Collection">
<Group Name="Scanners" Instance="0">
   <Group Name="Symbology Options">
    <Field Name="Preamble"></Field>
    <Field Name="Postamble">\x0D</Field>
    <Field Name="Global symbology ID">0</Field>
   </Group>
</Group>
</Subsystem>
</DevInfo>

Thanks.

Re: Controlling LEDs, beeper and vibrate on SR61

DarrenBeckley — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:48:26 GMT

I found out why this wasn't working. I was opening a scanner group "BTScanners" but it seems IS9CConfig3::ISCPCommandConfig() cannot send control commands to a group of scanners. I found a solution that works for my case. In my IBarCodeReaderControl::Read() call I pass a pointer to a ITC_BARCODE_DATA_DETAILS3 structure. This allows me to get the handle of the scanner that read the barcode. I then call IScanContainer::SetDeviceForNextOperation() with that handle before calling IS9CConfig3::ISCPCommandConfig() to control the hardware of the specific scanner that read the barcode. Once I have done that, I return to using the scanner group by calling IScanContainer::SetDeviceForNextOperation(ITCHANDLE_ALL).

Help

ricardocaosilva — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:49:45 GMT

Good afternoon

I have enough experience in java like developing an application to the collector CK30. I wonder if there is any emulator and framework that can work with Eclipse. Or if you have any progam simulator that can develop this in java. It would be a very simple program. I tried seeking more examples I could not find anything.

Thanks

Re: Camera IDL

stefanl — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:03:33 GMT

Where do i buy it and what dioes it cost??

Re: Intermec Browser - How do I get the postamble of TAB to work - VWConfig help?

abarnier — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:12:46 GMT

On OS 3.45.26.0031 with SSPB 6.20.33.0472, I needed the VWConfig.ini for the TAB to work as a post-amble. If I removed the VWConfig and reboot, then the post amble TAB will not work.

Regards,

Adam

Re: How to remove "Unlicensed Copy" word from Camera in IDL Multimedia Kit?

hjgode — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:48:40 GMT

After you used the license utility on your PC to register your MMTK license yu have to reinstall the MMTK Runtime CAB file. The water mark is generated by the runtimes and will only be removed with the install of the licensed runtimes.